Harnessing the Power of Identity and Love to Encourage a Discouraged World
Welcome to Episode 131 of the "To Be Encouraged" podcast, where the distinguished Bishop Julius C. Trimble shares words of wisdom and solace with Host Rev. Dr. Brad Miller. This episode, an invigorating discourse on identity, love, and belonging, seeks to bring light to a world that often feels overshadowed by darkness.
Bishop Trimble, with his characteristic warmth and insight, delves into the concept of identity, not as a mere label of what we do or possess, but as an intrinsic understanding of who we are at our core. He emphasizes that our identity should be rooted in what we believe and our core values - a profound reminder that irrespective of external accolades or possessions, our worth is founded on being children of God.
Here are three significant takeaways from the episode:
- True Identity Beyond Occupation: Bishop Trimble reflects on how society defines individuals based on their job titles or achievements. He challenges listeners to think beyond these superficial measures by focusing on their core beliefs and the values that define their character. This is beautifully encapsulated in a quote from Saint Gregory the Great, urging us to not be anxious about what we have, but about who we are.
- The Power of Love and Unity: Drawing inspiration from Saint Augustine, Bishop Trimble eloquently speaks on the power of love as the fundamental driver of our actions and relationships. He brings forth the notion that all things rooted in love will inevitably lead to good. This is a call to foster unity and understanding in our diverse world, recognizing that we are all children of the same God, deserving of love and respect.
- Acceptance and Encouragement: In a poignant message, Bishop Trimble shares the empowering thought that "faith is accepting that you have already been accepted" by God. He reassures those feeling marginalized or discouraged that there is no passport required to validate their worth— they are already valued and loved infinitely.
Throughout this enriching conversation, Bishop Trimble and Rev. Dr. Brad Miller emphasize themes of hope, love, and encouragement. They offer a reassuring reminder that every listener is inherently valuable, encouraging all to rise to their highest potential under God's inclusive love.
End your listening experience with a heartfelt conclusion where Bishop Trimble imparts an inspiring prayer, reinforcing the message that despite life's trials, love and unity are always within reach, a sentiment beautifully aligning with his mission to inspire 2,000,000 souls.
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The world is often discouraging.
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If you're the type of person who wants to do something about that
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state of affairs, then you're in the right place.
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more. Now the time is at hand to be
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encouraged with bishop Julius c Trimble.
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Hello, good people. Welcome to the To Be
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Encouraged podcast with Bishop Julius c Trimble. This is the
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podcast where we look to offer an encouraging word to an
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often discouraged world, and I'm your cohost, Reverend Doctor Brad
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Miller. Bishop, welcome to our conversation here to today.
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Thank you, Brad. It's good to be with you in conversation
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on a sunny day where I am. I don't know where it is
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across the globe, but that someone said the sun is always shining
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somewhere. No matter no matter what's happening outside your window,
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somewhere on this earth, the sun is shining. I pray that
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just these words of encouragement and our our conversation might bring some
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sunshine into someone's life. Well, indeed. And because that's what the overall
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theme of what your message is, that there are discouraging things that
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happen, but we choose whether we can look at some sort
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of optimistic or encouraging side of things. And so
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we always, seem to to kind of take this approach. We deal with
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some really difficult issues, you and I do, and your guests that you have
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on your podcast, and yet we always try to look for an encouraging
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angle on that. So let's talk today about what's on your heart. And you've
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mentioned that you have the word identity on your mind
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here today. So tell me what you mean by, by that. What's on your heart
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today about the word identity? Well, you know, it's often I
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I travel a lot, and people periodically if
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I have on a pen, one of my pen I have now is for African
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University, but or a bishop's pen or anything else. Or
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sometimes it's the prompting of a conversation. Someone someone would
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get around to what what is it that you do. People wanna know what it
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is you do. Are you retired? What is your job? But but
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rarely do people ask, you know, what do you believe,
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or what are your core values, or who are you?
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They wanna know what you do and sue up too often, Brad. I think we're
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defined by what we do as opposed to what we believe.
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And there's a great quote from Saint Gregory the Great that I really
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wanna use as a launching pad for our conversation.
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As it says, be not anxious about what you have, but
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about who you are. And I I would say don't
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be anxious about who you are. Claim who you are.
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Be who you are because God created you just
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as you are to be who you are. And
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so I I think that's it's important to know sometimes we're anxious
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about what we have or what we don't have, and maybe we should spend more
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time about what is it that we really believe? What are our core beliefs in
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life? What what makes us what what drives the
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definition of our character? Well, it seem like that's kind of the building the
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values that we have is the building blocks of what you said of who we
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are. And some of that comes from our personal history, you know, with,
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you know, our family and values and and, other
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people and influences in our life. Perhaps it was a teacher or a coach or
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a musician or something like that. Let's tell me about your life. Towards some of
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the building blocks of your values and what's what drives some
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of what who you are, your identity as,
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bishop Julius c Trimble. Tell me a little bit about you in that regard.
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Well, two things. Let me say about about my name. Well, my
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full name is Julius Calvin Trimble, and people used to say to me,
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Julius, well, I've never met anybody named Julius. That's kind of
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an unusual name. Right. People would say that I mean, I remember
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this in elementary school. And I and I'm I would think
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think to myself, I I don't in fact, I've heard this
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name quite a bit all my life. And so as I got older, I
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began to be prepared to respond. I would say, well, actually,
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it's a very common name in my family.
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My grandfather was named Julius on my mother's side. I have
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uncles on both my mother and father's side who were who
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were named Julius and now no longer living. I have a cousin
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who's a year younger than I am whose name is
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Julius. He named his first son Julius,
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and I named my second son Julius. So there
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is still at least four Julius's living in our family, and I'd I
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failed to mention I had another uncle whose name was
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Boise Julius, BJ. We used to call him uncle BJ. But I
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say that to say that the name Julius, I'm a middle
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child, I wasn't named after my father whose name was John
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and my but my older brother brother was. So the name
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Julius and the name Trimble, my parents really made it important
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to understand that you are part of a family,
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a family that loves you, a family that, you know,
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believes in God. We know at some point, you will have to have your
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own faith, your own identity, but that was instilled in
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me that you are a believer, a follower of
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Christ. Now I can't say that I've lived a flawless,
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sinless life, Brad, but I'm not confused
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about who I was told I was or who I have
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been. And I really love the scripture, Brad, that says that, you know,
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we are the children of God. Yes. Or blessed are the peacemakers.
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Or they are the children of God. Yes. We call the children of God.
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Right. So identity is important. And I would say
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that people, no matter what your circumstances is or what you've
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come from, whether you know your parents or or don't know your
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parents, that you are a child of god, and that
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is who you are. Well, I think that
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imagery you gave of the child of God is so important because
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a lot of our personal identity is wrapped up like you talked about family,
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you know, the actual connections of the name being a common
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name in your family, but not so much common with others. But that's part
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of your family legacy and who you are in that that regard. And
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so if we all are God's children, God has no grandchildren. Right? We are
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all are Mhmm. You know, we are I like that. I like that. We're all
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direct descendants of of God. And one of my my
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personal devotions recently, I just talk about, you know, children of the light. You
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know, children of the Dylan? The children of the light. You know, children of the
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children of the light. And so to me, that's also
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about a value of illuminating that which is good, that which
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is pleasing, that which is well with with with God
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as opposed to forces of darkness and values which
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are not edifying. And so I think that's part of the
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challenge we have right now. We have people in our world and
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in our environment and our politic and other things
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that have values that seem to be at odds oftentimes
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with perhaps the values that we have and maybe even seem
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dark. So how do we claim our identity, claim
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our family nature, our family name as children as children of
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God, and then be in relationship or
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be an influencer as it were of those who, whose
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values are significantly different than ours, or or there's a pathway
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that's, you know, causes some consternation or conflict
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perhaps. I think one thing we have we can't
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wilt in the face of those who would try to define
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us as something other than who we are or say that our neighbors
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are less than or other people call it
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othering, Brad. Othering. Yes. People who are, yeah, people who are
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using their platforms and their their bully
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pulpits and maybe in some cases, their offices and their
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positions to to to other people, to to
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ostracize or or to or to vilify
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or to, you know, or to dismiss people.
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And and we see it. We, you know, we see it in, like you said,
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in our divided politics, the body of
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body politic, but we also see it in in other
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place other spaces and as well when we
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elevate one group over brother another or we try
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to identify ourselves, you know, say, for example, this whole
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notion of Christian nationalism Mhmm. Or to say that, you
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know, English is the only language that should be
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acknowledged while while it might be the a primary
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language for our country. You know, our country is made up
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of lots of different people who speak other languages.
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So often we I I like being in meetings where people will say,
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pray this prayer. Pray the Lord's prayer in your heart language
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or in your native language. Then I read then I then I pray
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it in English and others may pray it in Spanish
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or may pray it in German or may pray it in
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Swahili. So that, you know, I think
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understanding that we're part of a bigger world is
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very important. At the same time, being
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clear, Brad, about who it is those of us who are Christ followers
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follow. Matthew Matthew 16. Let me read a few
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verses. Please. This is under Peter's
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declaration about Jesus. And I often say that
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this is the most important question I think boards of ordained ministry,
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those who will be licensing licensed provide license
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for persons to be pastors and preachers should ask the question
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Jesus asked. Now when Jesus came into the district of
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Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples
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there's a question coming. Who do people say that the son of
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man is? And they said, some say John the
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Baptist, but others, Elijah. Still others,
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Jeremiah or one of the prophets. He said to them, but
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who do you say that I am?
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Simon Peter answered, you are the
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Messiah, the son of the living God. And
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Jesus answered him, blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah, for the flesh and
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blood has not revealed this to you, but my father in heaven.
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And I tell you, you are Peter. And
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on this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will
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not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of
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heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven.
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Whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in
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heaven. That seems like there's a lot important
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question. I think that's question should be asked of us. We should ask about
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ourselves periodically if we say we are followers of Christ,
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not what denomination do you belong to first and foremost.
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But who do you say Jesus is? Right. Who is Jesus? And It
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seems like it's a matter of the question of not only who Jesus is, but
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whose we are. You know, who do we belong to? You
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know? Who who and and who I am is in
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in great part determined by whose I am. And
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so, you know, we could say that you know, we could say, you know, you're
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a part of the family heritage, the Trimble family, and Julius Trimble is a part
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of that. And in my case, my name is Miller and my actually,
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my first name is Robert. Robert Miller is the most common name
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around out there. Literally, more it's like a John Smith or Robert
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Miller. So and in my family, we've got about half a dozen Robert
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Millers, including my own sons. Okay. But but
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my point is is that this seems like for Peter was
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an moment, don't you think? Where he finally got it Yes. He
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finally got it Yeah. That who Jesus really was and then
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his relationship to that, that Jesus was not some sort of
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a royal or militaristic or political leader of any sort of
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that. Not there was no one upmanship. There was no, you
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know, I'm on top and you're down or I'm down and you're on top. This
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was about evening the playing field. This was about no
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marginalized people. This is we're all part of the beloved
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community. Can you speak to that a little bit? Do you think that's what's going
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on here with this moment with Peter? And how can we relate to that
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to what's going on in our world right now? Yeah. And I
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think it's, it's I think that I call it the power of particularity
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in the sense that that that the
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first response from the disciples was not an insult.
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Some might say it was a compliment because we they named
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well respected prophets. Mhmm. You're you're Elijah.
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You know? Right. You're you're you're Jeremiah.
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No. No. No. No. No. But who do you say that I am? You know?
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Because he asked, what do other people say? And then he said, well
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well, specifically, who do you say that I am? And and I go back
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to this, Brad. I say I say to the listeners of this
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podcast that you are a child of God, not
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because Julius Trimble says it, not because doctor
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Brad Miller says it, but because God said Jesus says
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that you are a child of God. So Absolutely.
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You know, I I think I don't I don't engage in arguing
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with people about the value of their own
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personal opinion or even their their political or
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their religious choices, but I'm not confused.
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As as the book of Joshua says, as for me and my house, we will
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serve the Lord. That's that's awesome. Well, that that's identity, isn't
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it? You know your identity. And the idea is here is to help others to
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come to know that they are children of god because I believe, bishop,
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that a lot of people don't believe that. They believe that they are somehow
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lesser than or they are somehow that they have been
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isolated or depression or other things have
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happened. We live in a time of a financial crisis. We live in a
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time health crisis with COVID and everything from a few years ago.
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We live in time with a lot of turmoil and people sometimes can be beaten
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down by that. And, my our job, your job, my
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job, and the job, I believe, of the of Christianity, you know, the church and
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those men and women of faith is to help to lift people up. Don't
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don't you think so? Those who are down and out. Absolutely. And also, the other
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side of it is, those who think they got all that and then some, maybe
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bring them maybe bring them down a notch or two. Can you speak to that?
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Do you think that's what we need to be doing here? I think I
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think, you know, humility has its place. It'd be great if some people
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could understand, you know, that at the end of the day, you know,
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they're gonna leave with nothing from this earth. And so it
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behooves us, I think, to really be as
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kind and gracious and forgiving as we possibly
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can. Saint Augustine has a wonderful thing about
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focusing on love as kind of the central
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characteristic or core value for those of us who are followers. Therefore,
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once and for all, this short command is given to you,
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love and do what you will. If you keep
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silent, keep silent by love. If you
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speak, speak by love. If you
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correct, correct by love. If you
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pardon, pardon by love. Let love be
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rooted in you, and from the root, nothing but
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good can grow. Wow. Saint Augustine.
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Saint Augustine. Nothing but good can grow from that
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which is rooted in God's love, in Jesus' love.
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And in fact, you know that at the end of near the end of the
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John's gospel, where Jesus prays this, you know, important
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prayer, he prays for his disciples. Father, you know, the hour has
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come and, you know, and says, and this is eternal life.
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You know, I glorified you on earth. So now, father, glorify
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me in your own presence with them. I have made your
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name known to those whom you have given to me, for they were
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yours. Now they know that everything you have given me is
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from you. For the words that I give you, and and
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I am yours and mine are yours, yours are
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mine. And so it talks about, you know, it talks about
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as he's praying for them, I'm coming to you. I speak these things in the
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world so that they may have my joy made complete
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in themselves. Joy in the world. Them all
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that they have needed as you have sent me.
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But I like this part of it. It says, I ask not only on behalf
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of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe
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in me through their words, that they may
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all be one as you are in me, father in me, and I am
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in you, they also may be in us. So the world may believe that
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you have sent me. So this
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notion that we are really all connected by God's love
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Yes. Is really is really, Brad, is really helping to kinda
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fuel my mission Mhmm. Which to encourage
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all people with the love of Jesus Christ to rise to the highest
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potential. I often say, Brad, sometimes I have to I say it
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to remind myself that I'm not just encouraging people
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generically. Yes. I'm encouraging people specifically with the
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love of Jesus Christ to rise to their highest potential
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because as as somebody used to used to say maybe
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Jesse Jackson years ago used to say, remind people, say I am
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somebody. And I say that you are somebody. If you are
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breathing today, you are somebody because you're god's
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somebody. That is absolutely amazing. Yeah. I was able to hear
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Jesse Jackson preach in person, many years ago. So yeah. And he said
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remember him saying that very eloquently. But I love what you said there.
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And these, I think, are some of the elements about helping people define
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their identity is when your joy becomes complete. That you
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are a child of God. You are the children of the light. And the
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the the way it says Augustine said about love, those are all elements of
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finding our identity. And so those people who are lost
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Mhmm. You know, those there are people who feel lost and
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unidentifiable. The Wow. Wow. Unidentifiable.
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Yeah. The op the opportunity areas for those people
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who can't speak into their lives and help them to define
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that and share the qualities that you've mentioned here
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and values. Those are the building blocks there. So I would just like
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you to kinda bring us around in this way, mister Trimble, because you're
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so, so good at this. It's about applying
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what you've said here today about values, about identity, about
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love, about joy being complete. And let's just
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kinda put it in the context of a person who's feeling a little bit down
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and out right now. Maybe they're a person who feel
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like their identity is being superseded by
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something happening. You mentioned a story about someone trying to get a passport, and
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there's some legislation about about, you
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know, suppressing voting because of identity, you know, or
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identity papers and that kind of a thing. Our identity isn't
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always wrapped up in a driver's license or a passport and things like that. It's
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about being a child of God. But I want to offer you an opportunity to
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give an encouraging word, sir, somebody who feels misidentified
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or disidentified, but they really need to be affirmed as a
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child of God. And so if you will give us that affirmation, that in
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word of encouragement to that person who may be feeling that way, maybe you can
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close us with a prayer after that. Would that be okay, my friend? Oh,
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absolutely. I I wanna say to anybody who's feeling a
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bit discouraged is that you don't need a passport
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because you've already passed the test. Alright. I think it was Paul Tillich who
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said that faith is accepting that you have already been
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accepted. You like that, Brent? That's how people That's That's
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telling. Yeah. I love that. Faith is accepting that we've already been
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accepted. So friends, if you hear my voice, God has
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already accepted you, and you don't need a passport.
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You don't need a birth certificate. There's no such thing as
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an illegal child of God, and there's no such thing as
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God's grandchildren. So if you're listening, you can spread this
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word. Listen. It has already been settled,
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your dignity and your value. And when others
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are not respecting that, we have it as an obligation
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to love ourselves. Yes. And I don't think we hear that enough. We've
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gotta love ourselves. And I remember in my retirement farewell, I
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said, I love you, and there's nothing you can do about it. But, actually, there
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is something you can do about it. Some things we say that that that aren't
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really true. There is something you can do about it. You can make sure that
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love is rooted in all that you think and pray
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because God has already loved you and allow that to
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emanate from you so that when you encounter people, wherever
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you might be, that what comes from you is nothing but
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good because it grows out of a place of deep
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love, love that's already been granted to you and
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value that cannot be dismissed. I say,
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you your value can't be dismissed by the stroke of a pen
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or any promulgation of poor ideology or theology.
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God has already settled the fact, Brad, as we've said today.
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And there's don't remember the song we used to sing, they'll know you are Christians
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Oh, yeah. By your love. By your love. Right. They will know we are
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Christians. Well, I love I love what you're saying. It's not an earned
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thing. It's a grace thing, and I love love that. And,
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so an encouraging word to that discouraged person because we know they're out there.
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That's, and maybe you could, help encourage them a little bit more with
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a prayer. Yes. Gracious loving god
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for the gift of life and the gift of love.
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We know who you are. We are not worshiping
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an unknown god, nor are we seeking
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a a spiritual Santa Claus. God, we come before you because
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you're worthy to be praised. We thank you for blessing us
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with dignity and divine purpose.
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Bless those who may benefit from this podcast
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and this prayer. Bring healing to those
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who are hurting right now. Bring safety to those who are
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in fear. Bring protection to those who feel vulnerable,
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and bring courage to those at this moment in
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history need to speak up, stand up, and show
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up for others. And we will be careful, oh
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god, to give you the praise and the glory. In Jesus
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name, amen. Amen and amen. And we we
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thank you for joining us here on the To Be Encouraged
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podcast with Bishop Julius C. Trimble, the podcast where we look
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to offer an encouraging word to an often
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discouraged world. Consider
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yourself encouraged and
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appreciated for listening to To Be
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Encouraged with Bishop Julius c Trimble. You are
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now a part of Bishop Trimble's mission of encouraging
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2,000,000 people to reach their highest
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an encouraging word to a discouraged
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world. Remember to listen next time to to
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be encouraged and never forget, God loves
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you, and there's nothing you could do about that.
